sound-proofing

MASH · 08-11-2008, 04:05 PM

Quick question,

How much do you guys think it would cost for me to sound proof my room?
I mean like putting up those foam things in different places.

Thanks

Thundergod · 08-11-2008, 04:17 PM

What kind of stuff are we talking about?

Soundproofing: so that no sound at all (or as little as possible) gets out of the room.

Sound treating: so that while you are in there playing your ears dont get tired and ultimately damaged (and your brain too man!).

The first is difficult... things can get really ugly (difficult and expensive) really fast, or you can spend a little money and find out it did you no good afterwards.

The second is easier, way easier.

MASH · 08-11-2008, 04:24 PM

sound treating

Thundergod · 08-11-2008, 04:31 PM

Ok... Ill come back later and elaborate on the subject (at work now). If I dont, please send me a mail or PM so I remember to come back.

MASH · 08-11-2008, 04:32 PM

Ok, don't get caught!

^AXE^ · 08-11-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mash94

Ok, don't get caught!

He owns the studio ....

MASH · 08-11-2008, 06:30 PM

ohhhhh...

Thundergod · 08-11-2008, 08:06 PM

Hey... Im back... and see a lot of familiar faces... thats good!

I think you should start by determining what you expect to achieve and what stands between the actual situation and what you want. (damn... just hit me: apply to life in general if you want)

If you want the room to "sound good" there are a lot of products in the market, like Auralex room treatment packs/kits. They go from 100 to 1000 but sometimes they are all that you need, they even come with a special glue (or so they say) to stick them to the walls.

You can build your own bass traps, high freq spliters and resonance filters... but that will require some graphic aids. I did my studio 50/50... in the mixing room its all auralex... and in the recording rooms (A and B) everything was custom made, of course I'm prety handy with tools...

MASH · 08-11-2008, 08:36 PM

I just don't want to annoy the crap out of the rest of my family. To make it so less noise leaves the room.

oilpit · 08-11-2008, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mash94

I just don't want to annoy the crap out of the rest of my family. To make it so less noise leaves the room.

Headphones

MASH · 08-11-2008, 09:12 PM

ugghhh! shhhhh!

TooManyHumans · 08-12-2008, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oilpit

Headphones

Nothing sounds better than a tube amp cranked through headphones.

NeoConMan · 08-12-2008, 04:32 AM

I refuse to use headphones.
There's no therapy in playing if I can't FEEL it.

Careful with the foam, make sure it's flame resistant or you'll end up like Great White.

Also, that sh!t collects dust something awful and you can't clean it.
Make sure you plan for that, cover it with cloth or something.

lowe · 08-12-2008, 05:23 AM

"Soundproofing: so that no sound at all (or as little as possible) gets out of the room."

How about that? Does anyone have a cheap/easy way to do that?!? I'm in!

MASH · 08-12-2008, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoConMan

I refuse to use headphones.
There's no therapy in playing if I can't FEEL it.

Careful with the foam, make sure it's flame resistant or you'll end up like Great White.

Also, that sh!t collects dust something awful and you can't clean it.
Make sure you plan for that, cover it with cloth or something.

haha ok I will.

Thundergod · 08-12-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowe55

"Soundproofing: so that no sound at all (or as little as possible) gets out of the room."

How about that? Does anyone have a cheap/easy way to do that?!? I'm in!

No cheap way to do that man... you have to make a second floor, walls, and roof... and then you end up with a smaller room, that needs to be sound treated also... (so that you dont go crazy when playing in there).

It is very complicated and expensive.

You can use auralex (and the type) foam, it is fire resistant (dont test it please) and it works finie... but it is a little expensive and it wont act as sound proofing device.

MASH · 08-12-2008, 10:35 AM

Will it lower the amount of sound leaving the room if I covered my door in it?

Thundergod · 08-12-2008, 12:04 PM

Well yes... but you can also do other things that will do the same for less money.

cudamax2343 · 08-12-2008, 12:10 PM

I kind-a sound proofed a room down in my basement. It works better down there because of the concrete walls but the key to sound proofing is making the room air tight. Any leaks will transfer sound. I did pretty well with a steel door and plywood on the ceiling and of course a exhaust fan for all the smoking going on and it really didn't cost much

MASH · 08-12-2008, 12:17 PM

Thats pretty cool cuda! unfortunately the room I'm talking about is also my bedroom so yeah...

Retrosurfer1959 · 08-12-2008, 12:24 PM

The foam panels and Bass traps etc, help control the sound and balance it for a studio but the won't stop the noise from going anywhere else in the house. that said Actual soundproofing gets expensive fast, I built a home studio when I had the current home custom built and they did 6 inch walls with a soundproofing (looks like grey sawdust) and spacers to isolate the studs in the walls. Not cheap but boy did it work still had to acoustically treat the inside of the walls to sound good but it's quiet everywhere else even rocking the marshall or drums. I have heard that they make panels that you can put up like wood panelling that have soundproofing capabilities. Good luck

MASH · 08-12-2008, 12:25 PM

yeah, never mind then

cudamax2343 · 08-12-2008, 12:40 PM

If it's a bedroom the cheapest way is a steel front entry door (that used for the front door of a house) installed in your bedroom with a sill. Most bedroom doors are thin and about 1/2" up from the floor and let all kinds of sound out that way. Oh yea you can always go with the wall to wall shag carpet thing on the floor/walls and ceiling with a sealed off door, Green carpet that is and call it the "Green room"

MASH · 08-12-2008, 12:42 PM

sounds pretty expensive...

cudamax2343 · 08-12-2008, 12:52 PM

Then just stuff towel's under the door and give the old-lady your credit card to go shopping while you play

MASH · 08-12-2008, 12:55 PM

my old lady is 14 and I don't have a credit card...

lowe · 08-12-2008, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MASH

my old lady is 14 and I don't have a credit card...

Hahaha, that's funny man lol. It's cool when people think we're older lol.

MASH · 08-12-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowe55

Hahaha, that's funny man lol. It's cool when people think we're older lol.

Ya, I know...

cudamax2343 · 08-12-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MASH

my old lady is 14 and I don't have a credit card...

Yo Mash, how old are-you

MASH · 08-12-2008, 09:44 PM

08-11-2008, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sound-proofing Quick question, How much do you guys think it would cost for me to sound proof my room? I mean like putting up those foam things in different places. Thanks

08-12-2008, 05:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
lowe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Soundproofing: so that no sound at all (or as little as possible) gets out of the room." How about that? Does anyone have a cheap/easy way to do that?!? I'm in! __________________ The schnozberries taste like schnozberries.

08-12-2008, 10:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Will it lower the amount of sound leaving the room if I covered my door in it? __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

08-12-2008, 12:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thats pretty cool cuda! unfortunately the room I'm talking about is also my bedroom so yeah... __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

08-12-2008, 12:25 PM	#22 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah, never mind then __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

08-11-2008, 04:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What kind of stuff are we talking about? Soundproofing: so that no sound at all (or as little as possible) gets out of the room. Sound treating: so that while you are in there playing your ears dont get tired and ultimately damaged (and your brain too man!). The first is difficult... things can get really ugly (difficult and expensive) really fast, or you can spend a little money and find out it did you no good afterwards. The second is easier, way easier.

08-11-2008, 04:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sound treating

08-11-2008, 04:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok... Ill come back later and elaborate on the subject (at work now). If I dont, please send me a mail or PM so I remember to come back.

08-11-2008, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok, don't get caught!

08-11-2008, 06:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ohhhhh...

08-11-2008, 08:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey... Im back... and see a lot of familiar faces... thats good! I think you should start by determining what you expect to achieve and what stands between the actual situation and what you want. (damn... just hit me: apply to life in general if you want) If you want the room to "sound good" there are a lot of products in the market, like Auralex room treatment packs/kits. They go from 100 to 1000 but sometimes they are all that you need, they even come with a special glue (or so they say) to stick them to the walls. You can build your own bass traps, high freq spliters and resonance filters... but that will require some graphic aids. I did my studio 50/50... in the mixing room its all auralex... and in the recording rooms (A and B) everything was custom made, of course I'm prety handy with tools...

08-11-2008, 08:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just don't want to annoy the crap out of the rest of my family. To make it so less noise leaves the room.

08-11-2008, 09:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ugghhh! shhhhh!

08-12-2008, 04:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
NeoConMan Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bitterly clinging to guns & religion in Arizona. Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I refuse to use headphones. There's no therapy in playing if I can't FEEL it. Careful with the foam, make sure it's flame resistant or you'll end up like Great White. Also, that sh!t collects dust something awful and you can't clean it. Make sure you plan for that, cover it with cloth or something.

08-12-2008, 12:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Thundergod Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well yes... but you can also do other things that will do the same for less money.

08-12-2008, 12:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 928 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I kind-a sound proofed a room down in my basement. It works better down there because of the concrete walls but the key to sound proofing is making the room air tight. Any leaks will transfer sound. I did pretty well with a steel door and plywood on the ceiling and of course a exhaust fan for all the smoking going on and it really didn't cost much

08-12-2008, 12:24 PM	#21 (permalink)
Retrosurfer1959 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Southwest Posts: 126 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The foam panels and Bass traps etc, help control the sound and balance it for a studio but the won't stop the noise from going anywhere else in the house. that said Actual soundproofing gets expensive fast, I built a home studio when I had the current home custom built and they did 6 inch walls with a soundproofing (looks like grey sawdust) and spacers to isolate the studs in the walls. Not cheap but boy did it work still had to acoustically treat the inside of the walls to sound good but it's quiet everywhere else even rocking the marshall or drums. I have heard that they make panels that you can put up like wood panelling that have soundproofing capabilities. Good luck

08-12-2008, 12:40 PM	#23 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 928 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	If it's a bedroom the cheapest way is a steel front entry door (that used for the front door of a house) installed in your bedroom with a sill. Most bedroom doors are thin and about 1/2" up from the floor and let all kinds of sound out that way. Oh yea you can always go with the wall to wall shag carpet thing on the floor/walls and ceiling with a sealed off door, Green carpet that is and call it the "Green room"

08-12-2008, 12:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	sounds pretty expensive... __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

08-12-2008, 12:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
cudamax2343 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Outside of Chicago Posts: 928 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Then just stuff towel's under the door and give the old-lady your credit card to go shopping while you play

08-12-2008, 12:55 PM	#26 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	my old lady is 14 and I don't have a credit card... __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

08-12-2008, 09:44 PM	#30 (permalink)
MASH Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	14 __________________ What if there were no hypothetical questions?

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